Logan 2

Jeff00:06

Welcome back to our supply insiders. My name is Jeff Morrow, and today we have a really interesting topic. We're talking with, uh, Brian Buell, director of sales for Logan again, and he was on just recently. Welcome Brian. Thank. Thank you for having me. And you're welcome. And we're gonna talk about some really cool stuff.

Uh, we're gonna talk a thing called Foamwerks. We're gonna talk about Cos-Tools, but before we jump into that, why don't you give us a quick recap on what it is that Logan does? A quick recap. Okay.

Brian00:38

Uh, Logan is pretty much known as the matte cutting company. We make, uh, the world's largest line of DIY picture framing tools, Matt cutting equipment, and things that allow you to cut sand, join and finish your own picture frame molding.

We've been doing that since about 1974. We're in the Chicago suburbs. We're a small originally family owned, uh, Company, and you can find our mat cutting equipment in pretty much any art supply store, uh, around the world. And that's really what we specialize in. We do have some equipment that goes higher up that would be used in a, in a professional environment, like a frame shop.

Uh, but what we really concentrate are tools for artists and digital photographers, which is a big market for us. Uh, and even crafters and even some woodworker, uh, because you're building wood frames. So that that's really kind of what Logan, that's why we exist.

Jeff01:32

Yeah. I, I, you know, as long as I've been in the art industry, if somebody talks about matte, cutting, the only word that comes up is Logan.

Yeah. I mean, that's just the, the truth of the matter. So you guys started deciding to start making foam cutting tools and, and things like that. Why did you decide to do

Brian01:52

that? Uh, it just seemed like there was sort of a, an empty sort of place in the industry that didn't offer tools specifically being used on cutting foam board.

I mean, foam board is a tremendous commodity that you can find. Virtually anywhere. Well, so many stores obviously are supply stores and craft stores will all carry foam boards. You can find it at mass merchants. You can find it in pharmacies and foam boards used for a lot of different things. A lot of times people are buying it to make signs, but sometimes they're using it to actually make three dimensional.

Projects like a craft project. Uh, sometimes foamboard is used for, uh, like model, like RC it's being used for the foamy planes, things like that. And, and sometimes been, you see, seen it used for train sets for building landscape. They build these structures out of foamboard and then put the fake grass over the top of it.

And it turns into rolling Hills and it looks, looks great. And it's foam board they've been using foam boards even used sometimes in window displays. Big stores in big cities, they use foam board to create these temporary displays that you see. I had a woman once tell me that she was cutting clouds by hand, and then she saw our tools.

Our freestyle cutter specifically is what she talked about and she was thrilled and, and wished she had it. And foam board is also being used, um, by these 3d modeling. Uh, people who are doing, um, three, like architecture basically, and tabletop gaming. So we created a, a line of, of tools that were specifically meant to be used on foam board, three sixteens, which is five millimeter being the most common.

And that was the, what was the original objective. And it kind of grew from there.

Jeff03:34

I know back when I was in high school, right before they started. Inventing the wheel. Um, Hey, we, we would cut things out of, of foam board and it was the most difficult thing in the world for me to cut. Cuz you try to use a pair of scissors, then you would try to use a, um, an Exacto knife and I, I could never cut it straight.

Right? So you've put together a group of tools. Is, is that what basically we're talking about here that will. Foam core. Is that what you call it? Foam core form board. What's the difference between foam core and foam board? Is it the same? You know,

Brian04:15

I'm not really sure. I think it's, I think if you said either of those words, I think people understand what you mean.

Um, it's made by a couple of different people. Um, Elmer's right now is a big, big manufacturer. There's a good company out in the new England called Gilman brothers. They make a really good line of foam board too. And they typically, they come into give a couple of different thicknesses. I think three 16 and, and half inch are probably the most common, but you may see maybe a quarter or three eights possibly, but three sixteens, which is five millimeters, I think is by far the most.

Popular. And even in Europe, there's a brand over there called, which is typically a 5 mil or a 13 mil, family of tools. So we have a circle cutter that will cut perfect circles from one to six inches. We have whole drill. Which has a couple of different size drills that you can insert into it. And that it doesn't really work like a punch.

It kinda bores its way through the foam. Uh, we have straight and bevel cutters. We have a VG cutter. And the, the tough thing about designing these during the prototype stages is we needed tools. That would do the job they were intended to, but not to leave any evidence of what they did on the foam board.

The foam board had to remain clean. Now the foam board is, is great stuff, but you know, if you just push your fingernail into it, you can make a, a little dent pretty easy. So it is kind of delicate in that way. And there are people that use these tools for architecture. And of course, it's gotta be very, very clean if you do that.

So when you cut a circle, we don't wanna see any impressions or compression or anything like that under the top of the foam board. So that was sort of the trick and Kurt Logan, the engineer here, um, you know, the originals, he was the one who came up with the majority of these tools here to do this. And we were pretty successful with it.

And we launched the line in 2008. And, uh, within a year or two, it kind of found its home found its traction. And it's a significant line for us globally. We saw quite a few of these Foamwerks in Europe. That's

Jeff06:11

the name of the line is Foamwerks. Is that what it is? That's right.

Brian06:15

Foamwerks. W E R K S is how we spell it is one word Foamwerks.

Oh. Wanted to come up with sort of something that was a clever. Very clear, tied to the line. And, uh, it's probably me, I think who came up with it, but that's what we've stuck with ever since. well,

Jeff06:31

congratulations. So, uh, can it, does it work on any other materials?

Brian06:36

Well, I mean, they are, I get that phone call about really a lot of our products.

Cause most of what we make. Uses a razor blade, our marketing equipment, people will say, well, does it cut this? Does it cut that? Well, it's got a razor blade in it. Razor blades cut. Lots of things. You know, if you don't envision something that you would cut with a razor blade, then this probably won't work on it, but sure.

They, they will work on other things I've had. People say, well, will it cut say leather or will it cut paper and say, well, you know, it probably will. I can't guarantee it. It's designed to cut foam board in the case of Foamwerkss. I guarantee it'll do a great job on there, but if it's similar, it probably will.

I've had some people. I've had people who do drywall work, who use our, our bevel cutter to, to, to cut joints and, and, uh, just kind of outside stuff that we never even knew existed sort of ended up being connected to the tools. So, yeah, they'll cut all different sorts of stuff. Uh, Gator board, sometimes we get asked if it will do Gator board.

I don't think it's gonna do a very good job on Gator board. I have tried it once years ago. Cause Gator board has got a very tough sort of skin and yeah, it's more, almost a weatherproof type of formboard. I don't think it's really meant so much. For building, you know, three dimensional shapes, so much a regular foam board.

It works great on anything. That's similar to that. It's, it's probably gonna do okay for you.

Jeff07:51

So they'll be able to buy this in all of their local retail stores.

Brian07:57

A lot of art supply dealers do carry them some carry some of them in, in stores. Uh, but certainly online the, the larger art material. Dealers are going to have the full line available and all the tools are available, uh, separately.

Or there are two different kits that are available in Foamwerkss. There's a deluxe kit, which is essentially all the main tools. And then there's a starter kit, which has sort of a, a smaller channel, which is an aluminum straight edge that some of the tools connect to. And then some of the more basic tools.

Um, so they are available in kits, which are a better deal. If you buy the kit, you save a little bit of money than buying everyth. Uh, separately, but they're pretty easy to find them. If you look up Foamwerks, you're gonna find Foamwerks all over the internet, and then you're gonna find a lot of these stores that have their own websites.

They're gonna be listing them. Now,

Jeff08:44

do you have to have one of the Logan matte cutters in order to use Foamwerks also? Or is it an entirely separate product from the matte cutter line?

Brian08:55

It's it's completely separate. Um, using foam board, using our Foamwerks plan on foam board, you have a kinda a very different objective.

People are cutting out shapes. They're a project like a box or some sort of a decoration or something. So it doesn't much do with two of the tools that. Are in the Foamwerkss line that do connect onto the edge of our channel rail would connect onto the edge of several of our mat cutters. So if somebody did want to work our straight cutter or our V Grover on say a compact or artist elite cutter, yeah, it will, it will connect it.

But we never really tried to stress there's that connection there because they are quite different.

Jeff09:35

One of the things that really excited, Dave and I, when we came by your booth in the NAMTA booth was this thing called Coplay. And Coplay was a word that I'd never heard before. And I saw all this incredibly different, weird stuff in your booth, and we just had to find out more about it.

So first of all, Tell us a little bit, what the heck is

Brian09:58

Coplay? Well, cosplay is, uh, short for costume play. And if most people are aware of, or have heard of ComicCon great big show that happens in San Diego every year, it's enormous, enormous. It's it's, uh, you know, people like Marvel in DC or there every year and they're promoting their new movies and there's all kinds of celebrities, movie stars, and people involved in, in.

Illustration and, and lots of different companies are out there. It's a massive, massive show. I've not walked that one, but I've walked New York ComicCon NYCC and that is also huge at the JIT center. It's a four day show and. Last time I walked. It was right before COVID and I think they had over a hundred thousand people that were gonna be there over four days.

So the whole thing of cosplay is taking materials and creating costumes or outfits as a tribute towards your favorite comic book hero or movie hero, or it could be a video game. Uh, character or it could be something you've made up completely on your own. Uh, I just worked the show just a week ago here in Chicago at McCormick called C2 E two.

And that is essentially the Chicago's version of ComicCon. And I don't know what the attendance was this year was packed as far as I was concerned, but I know in 2019 or 2020 was the last show he did. Right. COVID really hit. They had 95,000 or 92,000 people over a three day show McCormick place. And I would say probably a third of these, and they're mostly younger people that are, that are into this probably a third or more of them are in some sort of homemade, custom.

And some of them are amazing. I mean, movie quality stuff that people walk up to the booth and just how long did it take you to make that? And, and it's really amazing stuff. And so they have this community, uh, amongst themselves when they show up at these shows and it's like seeing your friends again, you're taking pictures of everybody and they have these after hours, uh, parties and dances and lots of cosplay judging events, like a jury event type thing.

And so it's a big. Big big, big market. So it kind of fell into us because of our Foamwerkss tools that we'd had since 2008 and sometime over the last. Two or three years, I started getting contacted by these smaller website, suppliers of cosplay supplies. And they called me up and they said, we would like to know if we could buy Foamwerkss from you.

And I said, well, if you're a business, you know, you can qualify. And certainly we know meet our minimums that we can sell to you. And then why do you want these? And then they would explain to me, they say, well, your Foamwerks tools. They work on EVA foam. And I didn't even know what EVA foam was, but

Jeff12:44

EVA foam, wait a minute.

You just said E V a foam that's different than foam core or

Brian12:50

foam foam core. Oh, it's very different because it's flexible. It's kind a squishy, flexible foam that comes in a couple of different thicknesses comes in a couple of colors, but I don't think the colors matter so much. Cause typically they're gonna get painted to whatever the, the costume is gonna be, but you buy it in roll so you can buy it in smaller sheets, some stores.

Have made a commitment to this category and they have brought. Smaller roles and sheets of EVA foam for themselves. And what you can do with this is cut it up into shapes and turn it into armor or swords or helmets or whatever it is that you're doing for your cosplay. And that's what a lot of this is built out of is this EVA foam, as it turns out, our Foamwerks, works really well on it.

So we were beginning to sell phone, works into these, um, smaller cosplay supply websites. And it got to the point that it was big enough that we, we said we really should be marketing these tools directly to these cosplay people, which are very different than the Foamwerkss. Customers who are using foam board for craft supplies and architecture, cosplays completely different.

So ultimately we, we rebranded, uh, a set of some of the Foamwerks tools, not all of them, but some of them that are they're applied to use on EVA foam and changed the color. And we changed. So they would be different, different, you know, from that, from the phone line. And, uh, and then we marketed them, branded them as Cos-Tools.

And so we have dealers that are carrying both Cos-Tools and Foamwerkss. They're not identical. Some tools are the same, one's blue and it says Foamwerkss the other one's red. And it says Cos-Tools, but there are some different tools that exist in each line that don't really cross over to each other.

So that's where the whole Cos-Tools came from. And it's an enormous market. And I've learned that well, where were all. These kids are making these costumes, where were they going to get their supplies, where there's some really good websites out there that cater directly to them. But a lot of 'em have been going into art supply stores for years and years and buying things really adhesives and flexible paints and blades.

And that's what they're doing with their cosplay, where they're, where they're getting their supplies to do it. And I don't think a lot of the stores even knew this. You just said

Jeff15:01

flexible paints. Now I know that's not something that you manufacture or distribute, but that's a, a paint you would put on this EVA board, Eva form, Eva form phone.

That's right. Okay. and it it's a flexible paint.

Brian15:18

Yeah. When it dries and sets up and it's on something, that's going to have some movement, something that's wrapped around your arms, or it's like a chest plate or something like that. You would rather use a type of paint that is then flexible after it sets up.

So it's not going because it's going to be, there's gonna be some movement there. So imagine taking a, a sheet of this squishy kind of foam and cutting it. And connecting it with glue, you cut angles and you can connect it. And then you wear it to say some sort of a armor. Well, the kind of paint that you put on, it needs to be flexible after it dries so that it doesn't crack.

And so there are some lines of flexible paint that work well for this that they're looking for. That's what they want. There's a, there's also, there's a couple of lines of some thermal plastics out there, which you buy in a sheet it's smaller and it's, but it's plastic. It's not really flexible, but the idea is you heat it and you can press a shape into it.

And it takes on that mold. And then you can paint this and make. Buttons or buckles or badges or something out of this, out of this stuff. And it turns out our Cos-Tools will cut. This also does a good job on that. And then if that's reusable, so you can actually heap the stuff up again with a, with a heat gun and reuse it, and that's referred to as thermal plastics.

And there are some stores that are starting to carry some. Sheets of thermoplastic.

Jeff16:37

Wow. I, this is a whole world that I have absolutely no knowledge on whatsoever. So tell me, I didn't need until a few years ago. Wow. So, so your co so it's Cos-Tools it's Cos-Tools.com

Brian16:53

That's our, yep.

That's the website. You'll see the whole listing of all the tools, videos. We have kits available also in the cost tools, same like the Foamwerkss. We have a starter kit and essentially like a deluxe kit, which has all the main tools. And it's a better buy when you, when you get the kit versus, um, buying them individually.

Jeff17:10

Tell our audience a little bit about the individual tools themselves. Uh, what is it that they do specifically? It sounds to me it's just a razor blade. Well, they

Brian17:21

essentially most of do use a razor blade, but for specific and some of the more tools that are in the tool to align, we have, um, we have basically a.

A cause tool knife, which is, I guess not a whole lot different than a box cutter knife, but it's, it's a very sturdy one. We use a really sturdy blade and a high quality grind. So it's very, very sharp. You can just use that with your hand free styling. And that's kind of how they've been doing it for years.

Essentially only like a box cutter and doing this, another tool that straight and quickly set the tool to.

The channel rail, which is part of the cost tool align. And it'll cut that angle for you. So sometimes when people are seeming together, two pieces of EVA foam in order to create a wrap or something around their body or something like that, it's better to take 2 45 degree opposite angles to bring them together and they use adhesive, but then they could even back over the top of it with some sort of other strip adhesive.

And then the whole thing gets painted over and you don't see. So 45 degree angle is very interesting to, to cause players. We have another one, that'll do three sixteens, uh, as a freestyle cover, it's got a little, uh, sharp, pointy push style blade. And if you had sort of taken a template or freestyle, draw a shape onto a piece of EVA foam, then you can drop this tool right in on your line and just push it and freestyle this shape out.

It gives you just a very. Very good. Cut. The, the big thing about the Cos-Tools that we've learned though, is you really wanna use foamboard as an underlayment, just like what the Foamwerks. Uh, a lot of times these people doing these costumes are used to using the green self-healing. Vinyl cutting mats, which is what everybody always used.

Well, the thing about the Cos-Tools and the foams, really also some of these blades are, are, they're very, very sharp, but some of 'em are very small and very delicate and they don't like to be dragged through the hard rubber, rubber, self feeling mat the best to use. I always tell people is to buy yourself just a cheap piece of foamboard, which you can find anywhere and tape it down to your work surface.

Work on top of that. And when it gets completely used up, then just you flip it over and use the other side. You'll get a lot longer blade life and you'll get better performance outta the tools. If you do that. I think that the knife that we make probably doesn't care cause it's a pretty sturdy knife, but some of the other tools like our circle cutter and our whole drill, and certainly the freestyle cutter, you're gonna get longer blade life.

If you use a piece of foam board underneath. So we have those, we have another tool which is a V Grover, which has two opposite 45 degree angles. You connect it onto the channel rail and you pull it across a piece of EVA foam and you're going preset the depth. So it almost goes all the way through the two blades, but not completely.

And then what happens is that excess strip falls out and it leaves this 45 degree trench and allows you to make a 40 or a 90 degree fold. Very cleanly. There's no compression or streaking on the other outside edge. So if they were making some sort of a bar body wrap piece of armor and they were to cut parallel vs couple inches apart all the way around, well, it's gonna so much more naturally around them.

You're removing excess. That allows that, that radius to, we have a whole drill that, uh, Cut three different size, perfect holes. Sometimes people it's not the hole that they want. They want the little round piece of EVA foam that comes out. Cause it looks like bolts or rivets or buttons or something like that.

And these just very, very creative people. They can turn scraps into. Just about anything. So

Jeff20:53

these are people that already knew that this is what they wanted to make. They just didn't have the proper tools to be able to make them

Brian21:01

yeah, they were doing it just with a hand knife. In a lot of cases, I've had so many people tell me, trying to cut a circle on E Eva form.

They tried everything. They would try laying a bowl, like a bowl upside down and tried to cut around that. Or they would try to use like a pro tractor type to, to trace a line and try. And he said, just never comes out. And it takes so long to do. And you use our circle cutter and you can cut circle after circle in, in, in minutes compared to what it would be by hand.

And they're perfectly clean so that so many people come up and say, boy, I wish I would've had these tools when I did my. Something build, you know, before. And so that's always, that's always rewarding to

Jeff21:35

hear that. No kidding. Now you say your circle cutter. How, how big and how small a circles can you cut with that

Brian21:42

circle?

Cutter will do anywhere from one inch up to six inch circle. Oh, my replace it right on top of the phone. And it's got a handle sort of crank on top of it. And as you rotate the crank around, there's a dome. That sits on top of the, the E Eva phone. There's a little retracting pin that tells you where the dead center of the circle's gonna.

So you're guessing a specific, you can very much do that. The on its a blade down slowly until it passes all the way through your phone, you starting with your foam board and then you stop. There's no reason to continue to crank into your own foam board. That's just your underlayment and you just lift it straight up and you've gotta circle anywhere from one inch to.

Jeff22:22

Wow. So tell our audience again, where can they go to buy Cos-Tools?

Brian22:29

Well, I would say probably the quickest way is just to do a search or check with their favorite art supply store that they're carried by a lot of art supply stores. A lot of the chains that are out there. Are going to have them. They just did a simple search.

You're gonna find lots and lots of people that sell them. We don't sell direct directly at all. As a manufacturer, only that's sell stores sort of. A technical help. And we're the sort of a demonstration destination. Our website is you can go to our website on the Cos-Tools website, and there's video clips for all of the tools.

And we post a lot of, uh, projects that we've done. We work with influencers around the world. I've got dozens of people that we, we work with. We usually do a couple of projects a month and somebody somewhere will put together some project of something. And I'll get a video that I can post them on social media and it's being done with our tools.

And that that's always a lot of fun because I don't have the talent to do what these , these people are doing, what they do. So I just let them let them do it. When I just did this show, though, I got to meet, uh, several people that I'd only. Talk to on email or maybe on the phone that were coming to this show and they were on panels as judges.

These are serious people who are very talented and well known in this community. And I, I got to meet some of these people face to face and, and, and thank them for, um, how much they've added to, you know, our line and how much more interesting it is when you can see some of the things that you can do with the tools.

Boy, no

Jeff23:58

kidding. So give us the, um, the web addresses that they can go if they want to see these tools. And if they wanna see the, the videos.

Brian24:07

Well, the website itself is, is Cos-Tools.com and that's where you're gonna see all the different items that exist in the line. And you can see the videos of all the different tools being used.

And then there is a section of, uh, of what a lot of our influencers have done. If you wanna see the newest stuff. Then you'd want to find us on Instagram, just look for Cos-Tools. I think it's, I think it's cos underscore tools, uh, or if you look on Cos-Tools on Facebook, you'll find us there too. And I'm trying to post things as often as I can updates to any new product that we're putting out, that's in the line, which we did last year, we put a couple new items into it.

Uh, or any new projects that are coming along or announcements of some new shows that we're planning to do. I, I hope to continue to do shows. With these going into next year, we there's enormous, uh, con shows that take place all over Europe. And we do a lot of business in Europe and I'd like to get over there and start doing some of those as well.

So right now we've essentially done local ones here in Chicago for the last couple of years, struggling with, with, with shutting down shows. But now it's coming back. And I, I think that when just last weekend there and McCormick got, it seemed as packed as it ever has been, that I've been there. So it sign, there are some different types of shows that of sort of, of are more aimed at comic comic book hero type things.

Uh, there are, uh, what are called anime or mango, which is more. Illustration. There's another thing that they do with cosplay, which is referred to as LARP, which is "live action role play", where they put on their cosplay and they will meet and have these. They will recreate. Scenes from movies or from books or from graphic novels or whatever.

And it's still a form of cosplay because they're building these, these costumes, the armor, the weapons. If you go to one of these shows, you're gonna see all kinds of battle robots with giant space rifles and, you know, magic elves with pointy ears and big swords. And just, it's just amazing how into it that they are.

And the, the quality and the skill that I see, uh, at so many of these is just, they're truly they're artists in, in their own way. And that's why I'm trying to encourage art stores that you should take this this seriously, because a lot of these people have been coming into your store anyway and buying some of your supplies.

You might not have known it. And if you, uh, just dedicate a little commitment of a category towards this and then advertise to make sure that they know you have. You know, you've got a chance to start picking up some, another market of business and, you know, they use things like drums. They use all kinds of adhesives.

They use, um, razor blades, obviously all kinds, including our, the foam board itself and then anything that's like a flexible type of paint. Uh, that's all part of the cosplay build world. A lot of that stuff's already in the stores.

Jeff27:06

Well, I, I would think that the, the Hollywood movie community, I, I would think that even colleges and high schools that put on theater plays and even small community centers, when they're desperate for, for funds, if they can find inexpensive ways to make very realistic looking, uh, tools and, and, and swords and so forth, this would be perfect for.

yeah,

Brian27:37

it's it's true. I knew I guy, a couple years ago that his younger sister, they were doing the lion. And, uh, he built, created all the animal costumes out of essentially Eva foam insulation board. I think he used for some of the things and he cut it with costumes and I saw pictures of it. He had it all painted up.

He did all the characters. It was fantastic. And a way that's. Same thing. It's it's, it's like cosplay, it's building it's costume play and that's, that's what it's all about. Do

Jeff28:05

you have any, uh, way of having people submit to you? Some of the really cool costumes they've made with your co tools? Yeah. I

Brian28:14

try to put out posts here and there just inviting people that if you've ever built anything with some of our costumes, and you'd like to show it off, send your pictures into me and I'll post them.

And I'll tag that person as the designer, uh, which brings more traffic than to their Instagram or their. Is typically Instagram, a lot of when it always inviting people that we've contests in the past before we'll submit some, something that you've and some additional tools. That's a lot of. Um, so yes, we very much encourage people to get as involved with us as they, they possibly can and we'll promote them just as much as they're promoting

Jeff28:53

us.

That's great. And, and if they wanted to send a picture in to you, where, how would they do that?

Brian28:59

Uh, well, they could either just contact our general email address, which is cs@logangraphic.com. Certainly can send it in there that just send me a note on our Facebook page or Instagram. I check it constantly. Somebody sends me a message.

I'll get it and I'll reply to them. And well, that's how I've met. A lot of the influencers that we work with is they maybe come to us or I meet find somebody that I send a note to, and we have a conversation. Let's do a project together and it goes from there. So we're welcome to, to, to work with anybody.

Jeff29:29

Well, I gotta tell you, this has been one of the most fun interviews. And topics that, that we've done. Um, Brian, thank you so very much for bringing this to our entire audience. And again, uh, we're talking about Foamwerks and that's Foamwerks and we're talking about Cos-Tools that cos-tools.com.

Anything I've forgotten to ask you about this, Brian.

Brian30:02

No. I think that about, I think that about does it and yeah, the whole cosplay thing is very different for us for all the years that I've done here. This is obviously very different, but it's a lot of fun. It's really exciting. It's, um, brand new thing for us.

And, uh, I can't wait to see it continue to grow.

Jeff30:19

Brian. Thank you. So very much this, like I said, this has been absolutely outstanding. You've been listening to the art supply insiders, check back with us often as we talk about the world of art and craft supplies. If you'd like to hear more of these podcasts, please hit the subscribe button.

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